Friendships & Starting a New Business in Your 40’s with Alix & Nicole

Have you ever wondered how women in midlife manage to keep it all together while being moms and entrepreneurs? Well, today, I'm joined by Alix and Nicole, two dynamic women who expertly weave the threads of motherhood with their individual pursuits and flair. Alix, a meal planning expert, offers a fresh perspective on fostering family connections, while Nicole shares the exhilarating leap from speech-language pathology to lifestyle blogging, inspiring women everywhere to embrace change with grace.

Friendship is the heartbeat of this episode, as we recount the growth of our bond, sparked by the shared rollercoaster of parenting. We muse over the strength found in genuine relationships and the laughter that carries us through. For the women navigating midlife, this conversation is a toast to your tenacity; we celebrate the empowerment and richness that this chapter of life ushers in, highlighting how these bonds underscore our resilience.

In this episode, we talk about the following:
1. Balancing motherhood and entrepreneurship.
2. Navigating the journey of starting a podcast and building an online presence.
3. Time management and setting realistic goals for personal and professional growth.

Don't Call Me Midlife Podcast: https://dontcallmemidlife.buzzsprout.com

Connect with Alix:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everydaywithalix/
Linktr.ee: https://linktr.ee/alixmackey

Connect with Nicole:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/touch_of_stass/
Blog: https://touchofstass.com/
How to dress for your body type: https://rustic-unit-318.myflodesk.com/h3m39xem7p

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 2:07

Are you a woman who runs the world but know you need a little support too? Listen up. Through coaching clients and pursuing my own health and ambitions, I found getting to a goal takes more than just willpower. It takes a mindset restart and learning how to adjust and not quit. In this podcast, you'll hear from women out there leading the way in momentum and I'll be sharing impactful mindset strategies to help you. Women out there leading the way in momentum, and I'll be sharing impactful mindset strategies to help you get out of your own way.

Speaker 1: 2:34

Whether you're on a health journey, starting your life after a big change, or trying to keep up momentum towards your passion project, with all the ups and downs, this is for you. It's time to decrease the things that hold you back and increase the things that move you forward towards a life that you want. That hold you back and increase the things that move you forward towards a life that you want. I'm Amber Biebelheimer and this is the Momentum Restart Podcast. Hello, hi Alex, hi Nicole. Thank you guys so much for being here today. How are you Good? We're so excited.

Speaker 3: 3:06

Yes, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1: 3:13

Yes, absolutely I loved. Recently I was on the Don't Call Me Midlife podcast, which I love so much. It is a fun weekly get together for moms. Now, in my car, as I'm driving to all the places, I feel like I'm hanging out with you. So it's fun to be live here with you guys today. Thank you for taking the time to share your insights and brighten our day. Would you take a minute to introduce yourselves to our listeners? Let them know about your family and your work life and what you do. Okay, I'll go. Who?

Speaker 2: 3:40

wants to go first.

Speaker 1: 3:40

Alex go first.

Speaker 2: 3:43

Alex and I live in the Boston area. Fun fact about me is my husband's name is also Alex. He's A-L-E-X and I'm A-L-I-X. I have three boys I've got who are in eighth grade, seventh grade, oh, in ninth grade. Messed up their ages, but that's okay. Nicole and I host a podcast Don't Call Me Midlife and I am a meal planner and prepper and just not a trained chef, but love to cook and empower moms to get in the kitchen.

Speaker 1: 4:15

Yes, I've got your cookbook right over here in my kitchen. I'm looking at it right now from my dining room recording studio. I love it so much. You are an expert at meal planning and making it fun too. I love watching on Instagram with you and your kids and the table talk and how you just make it fun, especially with my boys being nine and seven. It's always hard. You're right to name the ages of the kids, but naming them and then figuring out where they're at, having this age, like when they're young, and I see all the things that you've done and that you are doing around the table with your family and it's an inspiration. I'm not there yet, but I'm trying because I'm like with your family and it's an inspiration.

Speaker 2: 4:51

I'm not there yet, but I'm trying because I'm like Alex can do it, I could do it. I think it started with having boys personally and how to connect with boys. Right Like it's. I'll say it like it's easy. If I had a daughter I could do daughter things with her, but I have grown to dive into it more because it is a way to connect with my kids.

Speaker 1: 5:12

Everyone has to eat, everyone has to have fun. So, yes, I love that so much. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3: 5:14

And Nicole, another mom of boys, too, yes, my name is Nicole and I also have three boys, and they are also around Alex's son's age. So I have a 14 year old in ninth grade, I have a 13 year old in seventh grade and I have a fourth grader who is 10. And I am over at Touch of Stass. I started a blog a couple of years ago during the pandemic.

Speaker 3: 5:39

I was a speech-language pathologist and so I decided not to pursue that anymore, given the state of our nation, and so I brought in all my passions on my lifestyle blog, touch of Stass, and I talk about fashion and dressing for your body type, and I love to talk about food and wellness. As we get into our later years midlife, rather not later years, but Alex and I co-host don't call me midlife our body changes and so I think, going into this time of our life, we need to be confident in our choices, in every decision that we make, and feel confident, and I think, starting from the inside and out, I'm just trying to help be that for women and show them that they can still find themselves and their style. And yeah, that's just been my passion.

Speaker 1: 6:40

These past couple years and you do such a great job at it and I love following you at. Ditch's Desk because I loved fashion and I knew all the things that were happening when I was 20 years old.

Speaker 3: 6:51

And then, all of a sudden, life got really busy. 43.

Speaker 1: 6:56

And I. The other day, when I was at Starbucks, I realized everyone has high white socks and I'm wearing my little ankle white socks and apparently I'm really out of style. Wait, with what With leggings? What With leggings?

Speaker 2: 7:12

Yeah, yes, like the waist socks that go over.

Speaker 1: 7:15

Yes.

Speaker 2: 7:16

Yep.

Speaker 1: 7:16

I literally borrowed a pair from my nine-year-old son the other day because I didn't want to look outdated.

Speaker 3: 7:25

That's so funny. I need to get out.

Speaker 1: 7:29

It was like a thriller movie with a moment. I was standing in Starbucks and I looked at this person's feet and noticed, and then this person's feet, and then this person's feet, and then I looked down at myself and I was just appalled.

Speaker 3: 7:42

It was so funny.

Speaker 1: 7:43

One of those moments where I felt my age for sure. But following you helps me so much and I know you're so generous with your input and your style and your ideas, because I know I've asked what kind of jeans do I wear with my body, what kind of this or that? And you're so generous and you do it from a place of fun and love too, like you just want people to feel their best and it's a really fun channel to watch.

Speaker 2: 8:12

So thank you for all you do, and it's so fun to have you both here today.

Speaker 1: 8:16

I actually used your eyeliner trick that you taught us when I was on your podcast of doing the eyeliner underneath the way we need to do now to fill in the holes as our makes it.

Speaker 3: 8:27

Yeah, makes a difference, doesn't it? I didn't do it today, but but yeah, I appreciate your insight for sure.

Speaker 1: 8:32

Now you both are hosts of the don't call me midlife podcast too together. And how. I'm curious. How did that idea come up? How did you guys meet and make this happen?

Speaker 3: 8:44

I think I don't know we met in Olive Grove. So it was a business membership and so we connected there and I think we would just start watching each other's stories and feeling, oh my gosh, I could be friends with her and you reach out and you comment, and then so we just built a little foundation there and then, I believe alex asked me to come on her on her channel at every day with alex and talk about fashion. It was like holiday dressing. This was like two, was it two?

Speaker 3: 9:16

Christmases ago, two holidays ago, yeah, wow, that seems like a long time when I was still health coaching I was a health coach at the time, yeah. And then I'm like I want her on my page because everybody needs to hear what Alex has to say. And then we just started talking and showing up on each other's pages and we just we were like we should start a series called Feeling Good from the Inside Out. Alex would talk about the inside and I would talk about the outside. And it was just a beautiful marrying and it was just one day, I think. Alex was like we should have a podcast and I was like we should. Then I just I, just I. It was very organic in the way that it happened. But, yeah, and so we just started.

Speaker 2: 9:47

I'll say I wanted to be friends with Nicole because she seems so cool. Like I know nothing about fashion or makeup or anything Like. Literally I like wore Talbot blazers throughout my life. So I was like I want to be more like Nicole. She's so cool time with each other when it's like we came into each other's lives at the right time. I think we also really bonded and we don't talk about this much about our kids, talking about our boys and what they're going through.

Speaker 2: 10:17

And then I immediately felt comfortable with her talking about my boys because she had similar situations and similar ages. So I think it was us like us wanting to spend more time together. And we actually never met in person. We started the podcast, we started all this stuff. We never met in person until a couple months ago, so everyone was like really nervous.

Speaker 3: 10:39

That's amazing. I think I have fans who have a nervous cast than each other, because I was like we'll be just fine.

Speaker 2: 10:45

Are we going to like each other? Is it going to be the same? But we talk and text probably every single day, so it goes beyond the podcast, which is really nice. We feel like we've been friends forever, our husband's mad. So, yeah, it's fun. It's really fun to same as you empower midlife, ladies, right, we don't love the word midlife. I go back and forth but to feel confident and we have yes, and talk about all different things. So it's fun. It's a lot of work, but it's fun.

Speaker 1: 11:10

Yes, I love it, and you can tell that you both love it, and it's so fun that you guys get to do it together too. That makes a difference to be able to have each other and it's fun and business at the same time. And when you met, I remember watching on your stories and it was so fun. It was like all of us were there for your big reveal for the first time.

Speaker 1: 11:33

Tell us about that. What was the first time you met? What was it like? You had your all your families together the first time too, and after working together for over a year, and then you had all your families together. How did you guys celebrate? Go ahead.

Speaker 2: 11:45

Alex. So I was out in Keystone, colorado Nicole lives in Colorado. I was out there for a family vacation. We had planned, ok, I'm going to spend a couple of days after her and I were going to do a photo shoot and talk about our podcast together, let's meet. And then she ended up coming to Keystone with her family because her boys love to ski, her husband loves to ski. So we were supposed to meet on like Sunday, I think it was, and then she texted me we were supposed to meet on like Sunday, I think it was, and then she texted me she's like, oh, let's meet on Saturday. And all of a sudden my heart started racing. I was like giddy and nervous the same time. My husband was like, oh my gosh, like what is wrong with?

Speaker 2: 12:19

you I think he was more nervous what if she doesn't like me? Oh my gosh, like what? And so we were like walking down the mountain and I saw her. And I don't know about you, nicole, I've talked about this but it felt very like she was someone that I've known my whole life. It was like a college friend.

Speaker 1: 12:39

It didn't it wasn't.

Speaker 2: 12:40

I don't think it was awkward at all.

Speaker 3: 12:43

Not at all, no, not at all. We were supposed to. We had a meeting point and I was like I can't wait. I was with my youngest.

Speaker 2: 12:58

I'm like my god, Alex. My husband had the camera ready and so this would throw me off.

Speaker 1: 13:03

You changed the date you showed up early.

Speaker 3: 13:07

I'm the kid that used to sneak around and look for Christmas presents because I can't wait. And so it did. It felt Christmas time like I just couldn't wait. I had to open my present and there's Alex, and I'm not going to wait five more minutes, yeah, so we went.

Speaker 1: 13:23

That's so funny.

Speaker 2: 13:25

Things that her and I talk about on the side as friends now are sometimes very personal, so I felt like I knew her kids.

Speaker 2: 13:33

I like, want to give them hugs and they're probably like who's this creepy lady or her husband, Like we will text about a lot of things that are going like real life in our life. Right, we also, because we work together, we have good days and bad days. We have days that we're stressed and days that we need a step back, and I think we have grown to be really honest about that and we are also both not judgmental with each other, both not judgmental with each other, and that's the things I think I appreciate about our friendship the most. Right. You have friends from college. You have friends from little babies. As they know a lot of you like your past, good and bad right.

Speaker 2: 14:03

But we just met, so we're forming this friendship all on our terms and I think that's something unique and good and later, in life. I love that too, because something that we all want.

Speaker 1: 14:14

So we're talking, you really speak to the midlife mom, and whether we like that term or not, it is what we are right.

Speaker 1: 14:22

It is what it is yeah it is what it is. So there is this unique. I was just with my friends from high school. We meet, we try to meet every couple months, that live around here still and we went out for dinner and we were talking about how this time of life can feel so busy but so lonely at the same time because, you don't have, you're so busy, but it's all kid stuff or it's all work stuff, and then we just don't have the time that we wish we had to be investing in friendships like we had for so many years.

Speaker 1: 14:53

And so it's so beautiful that you are creating not only your relationship with each other, too, but that you're inviting people in and with the podcast and everything that you both do on your own Instagram channels too, it's like you're just opening your arms and inviting all of us women in to be able to make connections and feel there's someone there that can understand and relate, and it's really beautiful, because we need that in this time of life for sure.

Speaker 2: 15:20

Yeah, and I think right now, as your kids get older, I didn't anticipate this, and I love the podcast because it actually forces me to think about things that I haven't thought about. We're in this like messy middle right, where I used to, when my kids were little, go out to dinner with friends or couples. Right now, it's like all about my kids because they're going to leave soon, so I want to spend a lot of time, but it's also logistical. My kids don't drive yet. I'm driving them. I'm doing this, I want to be really present. And one thing I wanted to say, also because Nicole and I do a business together that can feel a little lonely If you're an entrepreneur and we her and I were just actually texting and voice messaging yesterday about this especially.

Speaker 2: 15:58

I don't have a lot of friends who are in the social media world or who are entrepreneurs. So to have that connection with Nicole, I think, is also what grew us together, to have the community of just her and I, and we know Amber and all these good people that we've met through the business course. Cause it's nice to have that support, because it can be hard, it can be messy and it can be really magical and fun. So having that friendship, and on both sides, is really nice.

Speaker 3: 16:23

Having somebody that gets your day to day, not just with motherhood, because I think a lot of us in this stage have a lot to a lot in common, a lot to talk about. But then you throw in entrepreneurship and it's a different, it's a different beast, because you're not going to work and you don't have that camaraderie, you don't have your work family per se. Alex is my work wife. I'm like, oh, I want to quit and she's like you can do it, like she's my cheerleader. But yeah, having that support is everything, because before we did our podcast, I was solo and having maybe like a business course where we co-work. That was, that was like my little team, but it's different because it was just half hour, maybe once or twice a week, and then Alex, she's just a phone call away and it's just beyond the friendship.

Speaker 2: 17:06

I love that you said that. Nicole, because I was thinking about that. I don't talk about my business a ton with my friends. They're so supportive and everything, but they don't know how to make a reel. They everything, but they don't know how to make a reel.

Speaker 2: 17:19

They don't know, it's just, it's very different and you also, I think, when you have a business, you don't want to talk to everyone about it, because you just you need, also need to put your blinders on and do what you're doing and love what you're doing. So, yeah, nicole and I are always like totally honest, are you okay? Are you okay Always checking in and I think, or if I don't hear from her, she haven't heard from you today. What's going on?

Speaker 1: 17:34

Yes, oh, that's so true, and you're right with being an entrepreneur too, is also has that same vibe of not everybody understands. So you've got to have those relationships and those friendships where they understand just the entrepreneur mindset. But then also what it's like to go to work each day is very different than driving to an office each day. It's so different for sure, and I'm saying I can relate. I don't talk with my friends are so supportive. They want to ask what I'm doing and it's really hard to share because I do, I what. I could go in for hours telling him about all the things that are happening, but I don't want to. They're not going to understand a lot of it, and you got to have those people where you can talk about those things, because it's a huge part of your life, for sure, that's so important and I love too when you guys mentioned how, when you met, you had your families with you and you're in.

Speaker 1: 18:26

I see you both including your families so much, including your kids, too, in your work and doing putting it all together and making sure that you're being present in both and involving your kids and what you're doing how. This is such a fun question, but how would your kids describe what you do? Have you asked them? What do they think about what each of you do? Because I know I've tried to explain to my boys and they do not. They think I go to Starbucks.

Speaker 3: 18:51

They think that's what I do my little one says I'm an Instagrammer and and so I'm like they're like what are you just Instagram all day, and then I'll show him like the blog. And then I think it really changed once we got the podcast and we were on YouTube because they're like oh yeah, that spoke their language on YouTube. But it was so funny because my youngest was like mom, I Googled you yesterday and you have I don't know. I don't know how he knew how many hits I had, but he told me, like how many hits I had and he's, you and Alex are all over the Internet with your podcast. It was just really funny. I can tell that he's proud because he's like I showed my teacher and she said this, and it's sweet because my boys are like how's the?

Speaker 2: 19:44

podcast going, so I love that I think it goes both ways too, and I think it's been a journey too because I'm a very it's taken me a while to be vulnerable and put a story out there and at 46 years old I don't know everything that goes on social media, so I'm not 20. So I think for me it's been a journey and to trust myself a little bit, but also in terms of my family, because I do meal planning and prepping and want people to have family dinners. It's also with middle schoolers and high schoolers respecting their boundaries, and I've learned that just because I want to be in it and I'm comfortable talking and putting myself out there A lot of times, like my little guy John. He'll be on lots of my videos, but my oldest is a boarding school so he's not always home, but my middle schooler has recently been like I don't know if I want to do it and I used to want to push it to.

Speaker 2: 20:31

I'll give you a gift card if you do it. It's what he feels comfortable with and it's interesting and I don't know if you find this too, for both your kids are a little Amber, but a lot of my kids friends follow me Right, so I joke with them like.

Speaker 2: 20:44

I'll be doing a live and they're like mom, what's for dinner? And I'm like, oh my gosh, this is like stressing me out a little bit. I think they'll say, oh my gosh, I don't want to do that. But they're also, at the same time, really proud because I try to involve my kids in what I do so they see what I'm trying to build. Right, it's not just making meals, it's a business. I recently did a five-day challenge and it was great and I bring them in on that. I bring them in on some of the stuff we're talking to our speakers about, right, I try to involve them as much as possible so that they and they can make their own decisions. But for my business it's also leaving a legacy a little bit of how I want them to see me and what they want to remember, because mine is so family focused.

Speaker 2: 21:27

But the boundaries also have to go. With my husband and I recently learned he's like a really private person. So I was going to do this photo shoot. This is an example and he's like I don't know if I want to do it. And I'm like I was going to do this photo shoot. This is an example and he's like I don't know if I want to do it and I'm like, oh my gosh, why? This is amazing. But it's respecting the boundaries, because sometimes we don't have any because we're putting a lot out there. So it's made me think about what do I want to put out there and what do I not. And I never will embarrass my kids. But and that's one of the parts Nicole and I have like clear boundaries about what we do talk about on the podcast and what we don't, and what's our story and what's our family story, our husband's story, our kids story. So her and I set those boundaries when we started and we teeter sometimes because we don't think our, our husbands even listen to our podcast.

Speaker 3: 22:08

But if they admitted together those they don't, they probably did when they were together, they did, they did um, but it's, it's a journey, for sure, and I think Nicole and I are navigating that together.

Speaker 2: 22:15

though they don't, they probably did when they were together, they did, they did. But it's a journey for sure, and I think Nicole and I are navigating that. That's one of the parts together too. But we want our kids to be proud of us and I think that's important to both of us to include them in what we're doing.

Speaker 1: 22:28

For sure. Include them, but also be respectful of their personalities and what they want, and being a mom comes first. First in that too. So I think that's beautiful and ultimately, I know that there's so many women that have something on their heart that they want to do Start the podcast, write the book, start the business, do the thing that's been on their heart but they just feel like they can't have. They don't have time because their plate's full which it is full, but both of you have proven and we need to look at women that have the evidence that, yes, it is possible to do what you're passionate about, and it is going to be hard and it's going to be really busy days, but you can do it. What would you say to that mom out there, or that woman who wants to do the thing that she's passionate about but feels like her plate's so full with being?

Speaker 3: 23:17

a mom. Oh, this is like unsolicited advice time. Yeah, I always say, first of all, talk to.

Speaker 2: 23:23

Amber about time management. That would be my first advice, I think you are so amazing about doing that and you're one of the people that were my OGs. I like to say about that Same I think even three years later, I still probably need a refresh of time management. I think even three years later it's I still probably need a refresh of time management. But that do you want to go, nicole?

Speaker 3: 23:40

what you would say, no go ahead to Amber number one. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 23:43

I would say do it for sure if you are feeling it. I think one of the things that I still am dealing with is do you want it to be a part-time gig or a full-time gig, like?

Speaker 2: 23:54

in your mind and building your business around the life. You want to be present with your kids and we all go through certain seasons with our children. What do they need right now? What do you need? What do you need personally? Do you need to work out? Are you healthy? You don't want to add more stress to your plate.

Speaker 2: 24:10

It's like looking at your, your life, holistically and what do you have time for? I and for me personally, I was a huge volunteer three years ago huge volunteered and it's taken me three years to realize I want my business to be a full-time gig. So guess what? I actually don't have 30 hours in a day. I may think that, but I don't. But if I want to, if you want to build a business, you need to have the time to devote to it and you deserve that. Your business deserves that. And so, looking at it, what do you actually have the capacity for and what's a little bit of your goal down the line? I know you talk a lot about five years. What do you? What's your main goals for what you're doing?

Speaker 2: 24:49

It's fun in the beginning I know Nicole would agree it's like really fun, it's exhilarating. And then you get into this part, right when it's. It can be hard. It can be hard, it can be lonely and getting through that, but I think time management and realizing your capacity in your heart, mind and body is most important. To do that, like, maybe if you want to write a book, is this a time to do that or do you need to wait? Right, let's start at 60. We know people that start at 60, but I think just what is your capacity of what you can do? Because if you're trying to squeeze in a full-time job raising kids, being a wife, being a friend and writing a book that may not be possible. What are your realistic goals and your timeline? Also, I'll say I didn't realize how long things take me to do right, if you do like a little time edit or what do you call?

Speaker 2: 25:35

it A time edit.

Speaker 3: 25:36

Time audit Time audit.

Speaker 2: 25:38

Yeah, oh my gosh, I didn't realize it took me that long to write my text and realizing do you need help in certain capacities of your business? Do you have the money for it? What is going to make your business move the needle? And I know you talk about that a lot, focusing on that stuff.

Speaker 3: 25:59

Okay, there's so many other things I can say, but, nicole, you go, that's so good, so good, though what was the question again? Oh God, no, I really think, really, looking at your time, you probably I don't know, I don't want to say you probably have more time than you think, but if you really do a time audit and when I took your master class on time blocking, I was blown away at how much time I really had and how much time I really thought about something versus actually doing something- and so when I yeah.

Speaker 3: 26:31

So when I sat down and I'm like, oh, I have like three hours in my day, that's when I allocated time. This is going to be for workout, this is going to be where I learn an app like Canva for doing design, and it's just also deciding if you want to do this part time or full time, and what does that look?

Speaker 1: 26:51

like for you. That's so smart.

Speaker 3: 26:51

Yeah, because I, like Alex, have been struggling with it too and I'm like you know what, I was pursuing it like a full time, but I was feeling resentful and I think I mentioned that to you, or I was not doing so well with my time audits and pushing things to like a point, Like I remember I was doing a project on Easter and I'm like I just need to finish this and it was making me feel anxious. And so I think, really looking at how is it making you feeling and what, what is going to drive your, give you life, yeah, so what lights you up?

Speaker 2: 27:28

Right, what lights you up?

Speaker 1: 27:29

Yeah, what lights you up?

Speaker 2: 27:30

Because there's everything will light you up. In the beginning. You're like, oh my gosh, this is so fun. But everything will light you up. In the beginning. You're like, oh my gosh, this is so fun. But really maintaining and I think Nicole and I have talked about this also what brings you joy, Because you can't be working all the time and allowing the time for things just for yourself that don't involve your business or your book or whatever you're going to do, and, yeah, those things that light you up.

Speaker 2: 27:51

I think, maintaining that because you need that and, if there are things, because when you are owning your business, you're a one man show. So what are your strengths, what are your weaknesses? And owning your own business is not for the weary Like it is not but it can be so fun and if you have a message or something that you want to share with the world, that will make a difference. Do it, just do it.

Speaker 3: 28:11

And it doesn't have to be a global difference, it could just be like a handful of people difference yeah, but. I think finding, I think finding help initially is really beneficial, like when I first started, I I worked with you and we did oh my gosh remind me the name the 90 days, yes, and momentum restart.

Speaker 3: 28:30

Yep, yes, that was life changing. And then when I like looked at what do I want this to look like in X amount of time, that was really an aha moment for me and that really shifted my perspective. And I think joining a business like Olive Grove where I could learn things and not try to do it on my own and have a little bit of support and community and usually in those places you'll find a person, like with Alex, I know.

Speaker 3: 28:58

I've seen people connect through Olive Grove and they've formed their friendships, their business ships, whatever you want to call them, and it's it. Being in something like that was really beneficial to me personally, I think the last thing I'll say is what does success look like for you?

Speaker 2: 29:15

And that can change over time, right? Yes, Because you can also, aside from your business, have success in your personal life and your family life, right Like again, looking at it holistically, does it mean making a certain amount of money? Does it mean making a cookbook? Does it mean? What is success and it changes. It can change on a monthly basis. So, I think, keep on reevaluating what you're doing and what your capacity is, because it changes for sure, because you learn and grow every single day.

Speaker 1: 29:41

That's so true, and every time you do, then you have new perspective to bring into what you want to do next, and I love everything you said. You guys are speaking my language, because this is exactly it I love it so much.

Speaker 1: 29:55

I love that you guys have put all that into action and to be able to look at what your capacity is and ask that question, especially with going into summer season right now. I've had a lot of conversations with different moms who either work full-time or part-time and they're both thinking, okay, now I don't want the summer to look like and do I need to cut back or do I need to find childcare so I can work full time? And there's no right or wrong, there's just different seasons. We want different things, and that's we have to do that. We have to look at what is success as a whole look like for us in the future. What is our capacity now, what is our next goal and what do we need to do we we as a collective, as a family to help us get there.

Speaker 1: 30:37

So I love all these things you guys are doing. You guys are an inspiration. Thank you for sharing everything with us today and being so honest and giving us so many great tips and inspiring tips too. Last question for you is a fun one what is? I believe you're both Starbucks girls, so what is your go-to drink?

Speaker 2: 30:57

We may say the same one. So you go first, nicole.

Speaker 1: 30:59

Oh really, we know each other's drink. Do you want to share each other's drink? That's a good quiz, right?

Speaker 2: 31:05

there. Oh, like the newlywed game. What was I going to say? I think Alex's favorite, what season are?

Speaker 3: 31:11

we in.

Speaker 2: 31:13

Good question, is it?

Speaker 1: 31:14

summer. Okay, this is summer, because we're going with like spring summer, yeah, like right today, I don't know how it's.

Speaker 3: 31:21

I just know her fall and winter drink. Your fall drink is that oat, apple, oat crisp, whatever it was the macchiato.

Speaker 2: 31:29

That is so yes, the macchiato, and then the london fog, am I right? I was going to say London Fog for you.

Speaker 3: 31:36

That's so funny. I'm obsessed with London Fog. I just learned.

Speaker 2: 31:39

There's not like a lot of coffee in there.

Speaker 3: 31:40

I didn't know that, london Fog, there's no coffee.

Speaker 2: 31:44

Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 3: 31:45

I thought it was coffee.

Speaker 2: 31:48

I also love the right now, the lavender matcha. That is so good. I don't drink ice coffee. I only drink hot coffee, even in the summertime. Me too, I do not. I don't like ice coffee. My husband loves ice coffee. I do like a cold brew with that creamy foam on top. It's really good but unlike even I. This is duncan, but I she's like do you want a hot or a cold coffee?

Speaker 1: 32:12

I'm like Like always, that's how coffee's made. It's hot.

Speaker 3: 32:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we love Starbucks. We both love coffee. Yeah, nicole, I love it. Yeah, it's going Okay. Now my, my go-to is an oat milk latte with cinnamon steamed in, because you get the flavor. It cuts the bitterness without the sugar yeah, and I love the creaminess of oat milk, so that that is my.

Speaker 2: 32:38

How do you tell them that? Do you say just?

Speaker 3: 32:40

steam it with. Can I get? Yeah, can I get a tall oat milk latte with steamed cinnamon, please? Okay, that's it no fancy nicole really does.

Speaker 1: 32:50

That's my fear of have. I always want to try something new, but I never know how to order it or they're going to be like you made that up. You don't know what you're talking about. You have to check out the macro barista.

Speaker 2: 33:00

I always go to the macro barista webpage and he has all the good skinny drinks and when I'm feeling I know I will get a fun drink in the afternoon, I don't drink. I don't drink like those drinks in the morning, I just drink straight black coffee. But, ooh, now I want to go to Starbucks.

Speaker 1: 33:15

Yeah, but if I'm like, do I have time?

Speaker 3: 33:18

If I'm treating myself and I'm not worried about sugar or anything like that, it's white chocolate mocha. What I was almost going to say that, Nicole.

Speaker 2: 33:26

I'm not thinking about anything. I would get those decaf, I think when I was pregnant.

Speaker 3: 33:31

I love white chocolate, though Candy canes crush on top during the holidays.

Speaker 1: 33:38

That's my. Yeah. Oh, that sounds so good Now that we're all going to take a Starbucks break. Thank you for that. It was so much fun. Thank you both so much.

Speaker 3: 33:46

I appreciate it.

Speaker 1: 33:47

You guys soon, okay, bye, bye thank you for listening to this episode of momentum restart podcast. I would love to hear what you think about it. What were your takeaways? What action steps do you now want to take? Dm me on instagram at coach amber b and let's keep this conversation going. I promise I respond to every message I get. Talk with you soon.